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electrogen
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 Posted - 2012/02/23 : 12:44:39
I think it not proper dj ing but, i learned to dj with vinyl and have tOns of vinyl. I can see though the appeal and it is just as good if not better. Infact i now dj with cd and buy wav files instead of vinyl.
I think the problem people have me included is you can press 1 button and it syncs and mixes for you. My 3 yr old son could do it, it that easy. Whereas a turntablenist has mastered the art. It also makes for better producer if you use vinyl as you ha e to listen to the track to get it right.
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electrogen
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 12:52:53
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Originally posted by Lilark:
To Jay and anyone else willing to take a listen and help, here is the mix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KDJjnsmSg&feature=channel_video_title
Hardcore SUCKAGE. I need some serious practice...
Your deffo right about practice lol.
Sound on time but mixed in wrong place.
I might do a mix and upload later im in mood now lol
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 13:13:02
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Originally posted by Lilark:
To Jay and anyone else willing to take a listen and help, here is the mix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KDJjnsmSg&feature=channel_video_title
Hardcore SUCKAGE. I need some serious practice...
Hardcore SUCKAGE is very misleading - perfectly acceptable mix dude!
The only bit that didn't sound especially great was when you brought Save Our Love in. It kind of messed with the natural momentum. It's really difficult to pull-off bringing a beat in like that, whilst there's still a vocal breakdown playing in the current track. If I'm gonna do quick mixing like that (i.e. before the natural end of the track), I try to avoid doing it with vocal tracks unless I know them really, really well - and know that it's definitely going to sound okay - and not sound like I've just cut off, or faded out, mid vocal. There's nothing wrong with quick mixing (I tend not to do it because I'm boring and unadventurous), but you need to really know your tracks, and be good with your EQs. I would, initially, only entertain doing it with non-vocal tracks. You can bring them in and out with a bit more subtlety, if you see what I mean?
Everything else was fine man. Good tunes, beat matching fine - no problems at all. :-)
I know you don't get long on the laptop, but if you can, try start recording some hour-plus mixes. Then in the intervening days until your next session, listen back to the mix over and over again (which you'll want to do anyway, because it'll be all your favourite tunes unlike listening to a mix by someone else), and you will learn what sounds good and what doesn't sound great. You'll start having thoughts like "Mmm, shouldn't have bought that in just there", or "Mmm, those two tunes don't really go together too great", or "Ahh, next time I can bring that beat out for two seconds when this tune is coming in" etc etc.
Something I try to find time to do, especially when I've bought some new tunes, is to just play around with the same two tunes for like fifteen/twenty minutes. Constantly mixing them back into each other at different points - really getting to know them well.
Other than that, I've found that just listening to loads and loads of mixes (your own or other peoples) and tuning into radio shows - you gradually just pick-up tiny odd bits of information/techniques that you don't really think about, but that will somehow contribute to your overall knowledge of mixing. You might suddenly decide to drop a tune out mid-transition because it feels right, on a hunch - and bang, some cheeky little effect from the other tune comes out crystal clear, and then you slam the other one back in. You might not have known, consciously, that that was gonna turn out that good - but after hearing that tune mixed by someone at some point - your brain knew that there was an opportunity to do that. I don't know if I've explained that bit very well - sorry :-/
But yeah, hopefully that's helped a little bit? Probably hasn't.
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wong
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 13:58:10
you would hate my mixes then jay i do quick mixin most of the time, tryin to get as many tracks as i can in haha
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 14:52:30
Ha ha! I don't mind other people doing it at all! I just rarely do it myself. Should change that though. Need to improve.
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electrogen
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 14:59:22
Gammer does quick mixes realy well
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 15:05:05
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Gammer does quick mixes realy well
He certainly does. Genuine genius.
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wong
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 15:24:43
yep, amazing dj, im just not that much into his productions these days unfortunately.
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electrogen
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 16:01:04
No me neither. I like the blip blip bing stuff but have moved to liking s3rl. Im also starting to produce harder music too
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electrogen
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 16:02:13
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Originally posted by electrogen:
Gammer does quick mixes realy well
He certainly does. Genuine genius.
I think u can only do it that way if you use harmonic mixing
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wong
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 16:23:33
s3rl ? i hate his stuff. only 1 track i like from him (butterfly)
i cringe when i hear his stuff
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 17:36:13
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s3rl ? i hate his stuff. only 1 track i like from him (butterfly)
i cringe when i hear his stuff
To each his own, but you're missing out.
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 18:57:22
no i aint missin out cus i always listen to his new tracks to see if i like them, and i never do. so therefore im not missing out out 
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Lilark
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 21:20:13
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
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Originally posted by Lilark:
To Jay and anyone else willing to take a listen and help, here is the mix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KDJjnsmSg&feature=channel_video_title
Hardcore SUCKAGE. I need some serious practice...
Hardcore SUCKAGE is very misleading - perfectly acceptable mix dude!
The only bit that didn't sound especially great was when you brought Save Our Love in. It kind of messed with the natural momentum. It's really difficult to pull-off bringing a beat in like that, whilst there's still a vocal breakdown playing in the current track. If I'm gonna do quick mixing like that (i.e. before the natural end of the track), I try to avoid doing it with vocal tracks unless I know them really, really well - and know that it's definitely going to sound okay - and not sound like I've just cut off, or faded out, mid vocal. There's nothing wrong with quick mixing (I tend not to do it because I'm boring and unadventurous), but you need to really know your tracks, and be good with your EQs. I would, initially, only entertain doing it with non-vocal tracks. You can bring them in and out with a bit more subtlety, if you see what I mean?
Everything else was fine man. Good tunes, beat matching fine - no problems at all. :-)
I know you don't get long on the laptop, but if you can, try start recording some hour-plus mixes. Then in the intervening days until your next session, listen back to the mix over and over again (which you'll want to do anyway, because it'll be all your favourite tunes unlike listening to a mix by someone else), and you will learn what sounds good and what doesn't sound great. You'll start having thoughts like "Mmm, shouldn't have bought that in just there", or "Mmm, those two tunes don't really go together too great", or "Ahh, next time I can bring that beat out for two seconds when this tune is coming in" etc etc.
Something I try to find time to do, especially when I've bought some new tunes, is to just play around with the same two tunes for like fifteen/twenty minutes. Constantly mixing them back into each other at different points - really getting to know them well.
Other than that, I've found that just listening to loads and loads of mixes (your own or other peoples) and tuning into radio shows - you gradually just pick-up tiny odd bits of information/techniques that you don't really think about, but that will somehow contribute to your overall knowledge of mixing. You might suddenly decide to drop a tune out mid-transition because it feels right, on a hunch - and bang, some cheeky little effect from the other tune comes out crystal clear, and then you slam the other one back in. You might not have known, consciously, that that was gonna turn out that good - but after hearing that tune mixed by someone at some point - your brain knew that there was an opportunity to do that. I don't know if I've explained that bit very well - sorry :-/
But yeah, hopefully that's helped a little bit? Probably hasn't.
It really was a huge help, thanks a bunch! I've thought about messing with vocal-less songs more, just never really had the time. I'll try that, and making longer mixes as well. Honestly I've never recorded a mix over 20 minutes xD
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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/02/23 : 21:43:27
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Originally posted by wong:
no i aint missin out cus i always listen to his new tracks to see if i like them, and i never do. so therefore im not missing out out
What I meant by that was since you don't like him, you can't enjoy his songs so you're missing out on if you did like them.
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