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djDMS
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 Posted - 2019/04/12 : 21:11:56
Quick rundown of my thoughts.
I wouldn't vote for a party of 'traitors' if they were the only choice.
I voted remain and would do so every single time.
But! I don't want another vote or the result reversed. The result should stand despite so many people having no idea what they were voting for.
The delay isn't a bad thing as long as we get a better deal out of it.
Anybody who says 'just leave with no deal and see what happens' has no idea what the consequences might be.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/04/12 : 21:54:24
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Quick rundown of my thoughts.
I wouldn't vote for a party of 'traitors' if they were the only choice.
I voted remain and would do so every single time.
But! I don't want another vote or the result reversed. The result should stand despite so many people having no idea what they were voting for.
The delay isn't a bad thing as long as we get a better deal out of it.
Anybody who says 'just leave with no deal and see what happens' has no idea what the consequences might be.
Good points! A lot that I agree with. I am a casual remainer but respect the result of the referendum and think that it should be done properly.
Have a look at Change UK (not change.org) and they seem quite positive at the moment. They are not getting a lot of recognition at the moment as they are still in the process of being registered but they could be the common ground that our country needs right now
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TartanTerror2119
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Posted - 2019/04/12 : 22:04:33
leave/remain...either way they'll find some way to screw us, they always do
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Jay-Owen
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 Posted - 2019/08/27 : 00:51:30
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Of course who loves Corbyn? That's right, the BBC! They really want Labour elected don't they?
What world do you live in?
- https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/bbc-biased-against-jeremy-corbyn-look-evidence
- https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/nick-robinson-tackles-anti-corbyn-bias-at-the-bbc/
- https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/26/jeremy-corbyn-media-coverage_n_8653886.html?guccounter=1
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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 00:57:59
Don't get me wrong: if you don't like Corbyn, fair enough. To each their own. I won't hide that I'm a lifelong Labour supporter, and although I don't agree with Corbyn on everything, I still believe he's the best current option for PM.
But to claim that the BBC (or indeed any major media group other than the Guardian and the Independent) are pro-Corbyn is simply demonstrably not true. The BBC are decidedly centrist and pro-establishment, which at the moment makes them closer to BoJo than Corbyn (although they were very pro-Blair and pro-Blairism in the day). I mean, Panorama did a whole episode on Labour's antisemitism problem recently - they have never covered the Tories' rampant islamophobia with the same vigour.
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 12:00:44
Jews: "We can't vote Labour/Corbin because he's said something anti-semitist or a supporter of BDS."
Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:17:01
I now support Brexit and have no problems leaving without a deal
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:29:38
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:41:25
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....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 19:27:28
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Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 05:26:07
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
Well you are, if you want to be governed by unelectable beaurocrats in a different country. Want all your laws set by a different country that cares less about the UK than I do about Hip Hop. Want non stop immigration with zero control over it, want to trade with the rest of the world AS WELL AS the EU. And would you want your kids drafted into the first EU army ? And please don't tell me that will not happen. I could go on n on n on, but you've heard it all before.
I am not gonna argue or debate it, because I do respect the fact you said you'd be happy with honouring the result even though it wasn't the one you voted for, this was the attitude I actually expected after the referendum. What i've seen since is just laughable.
The whole No Deal situation is no where near as damaging as people are talking about, if you think they are not prepared for it, then that blame lies solely at Teresa Mays feet and she should be charged for it. I'd rather see a deal, a new one, which could still happen and may do tbh as the EU are changing their stance thanks to Boris refusing to say he'll avoid a no deal or prologuing parliment. Which is what we should have said from the start.
What Corbyn and Swinson are doing now is technically treason, but Blair made sure those laws got changed didn't he.
I am sick of the whole thing too now tbh, its dominated for too long.
As regards Corbyn, the man is a complete asshat, and would raise taxes across the board to create a new welfare state. He's a true bellend. As is Samination, who can **** off with the far right comment.
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 08:56:54
Oh **** off
You're not governed by anyone outside the UK, or by laws created by everyone else. The people YOU voted for either voted for or voted against implementing certain rules in all of the EU. If the majority voted for something, then the ones who voted aginst it have to live with it, or create rules that makes it harder to actually work. That's how unions work, and it's understandable why Scotland wants to leave the UK (because you are the EU in that context).
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LeVzi
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 10:06:47
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 20:25:53
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Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
Lay off the drugs!
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 20:27:48
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
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