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PhantomB New Member
United Kingdom
52 posts Joined: Feb, 2017
Posted - 2018/07/21 : 14:34:13
So was speaking to my mate the other day and he said next year he definitely is gonna book HTID in the sun as he's been saying for year's he wants to go and he's getting on a bit now lol but it got me thinking does HTID in the sun even exist anymore? There didn't seem to be one one this year and last year if I recall it was only for a few day's not the whole 7 like it used to be. When I said this to him he said oh well I'll go to uproar in the dam instead but am I right in thinking there hasn't been an uproar in the dam for at least 3 years? All I can find from recent time's is innovation in the dam which is drum and bass. So what's happened to these two big hardcore events and if they have stopped doing them completely does anyone know why?
Craig Cairney Junior Member
United Kingdom
145 posts Joined: Nov, 2016
Posted - 2018/07/21 : 23:23:57
Probably has something to do with the dwindling numbers over the years. I remember when things were great, they had 1500 (plus) over etc. The last few ones were struggling to get 400.
The drunken scotsman Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,486 posts Joined: Dec, 2011
Posted - 2018/07/22 : 08:48:39
No idea if they did one or not this year but if not then it will be the first time since it started in 07. In total I went to 4 ITS events - 2007, 2012, 2013 and 2015. Nothing will ever come close to 2007. The buzz during that kick off set on the first night is something I had never seen before and never again since.
It was such a different feel to the event when I returned in 2012 and 2013. Numbers were down massively which is obviously representative of hardcore in general. Lloret de Mar is also a bit of a shitehole so I guess a lot of people got fed up heading there every summer. They changed to Magaluf in 2015 which was definitely a good move but I havent been back since that year. Numbers were still relatively low.
If HTID has been bought out now, it wouldn?t surprise me if they just decided to cancel the event. It takes a lot of work to organise and if theres not a decent return on investment then whats the point.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/07/22 : 18:23:02
quote:Originally posted by Craig Cairney:
Probably has something to do with the dwindling numbers over the years. I remember when things were great, they had 1500 (plus) over etc. The last few ones were struggling to get 400.
Was this the one Ravers Reunited tried to steal their visitors, or was that the year before?
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PhantomB New Member
United Kingdom
52 posts Joined: Feb, 2017
Posted - 2018/07/22 : 19:06:04
quote:Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
No idea if they did one or not this year but if not then it will be the first time since it started in 07. In total I went to 4 ITS events - 2007, 2012, 2013 and 2015. Nothing will ever come close to 2007. The buzz during that kick off set on the first night is something I had never seen before and never again since.
It was such a different feel to the event when I returned in 2012 and 2013. Numbers were down massively which is obviously representative of hardcore in general. Lloret de Mar is also a bit of a shitehole so I guess a lot of people got fed up heading there every summer. They changed to Magaluf in 2015 which was definitely a good move but I havent been back since that year. Numbers were still relatively low.
If HTID has been bought out now, it wouldn?t surprise me if they just decided to cancel the event. It takes a lot of work to organise and if theres not a decent return on investment then whats the point.
I can imagine as UK Hardcore was truly at it's peak around 2007, shame how thing's change :(
PhantomB New Member
United Kingdom
52 posts Joined: Feb, 2017
Posted - 2018/07/22 : 19:08:10
And what about uproar in the dam? Anyone know if that's still going? If not then jeez I guess UK Hardcore really is pretty much dead these days
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Thumpa Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2018/07/24 : 10:39:46
The last Uproar In The Dam was 2015, Uproar the brand has now changed hands and has had a succesful return event to Birmingham last weekend.
HTID had an event in London at the O2 in May that looked quite busy. HTID In The Sun went from 2000 people (2007 ish) to around 500 (2016/17) so its easy to see why it stopped after last year, its a lot of money to hire venues and fly DJs out, I've been told the costs and its hard to see how they made money the last few years.
Uproar will be doing another event in Birmingham soon I am told!
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
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Posted - 2018/07/24 : 11:35:55
TBH, with the weather in the UK right now, why bother taking an expensive trip to another hot country? :P
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Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,511 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2018/07/25 : 08:59:34
quote:Originally posted by Thumpa:
The last Uproar In The Dam was 2015, Uproar the brand has now changed hands and has had a succesful return event to Birmingham last weekend.
HTID had an event in London at the O2 in May that looked quite busy. HTID In The Sun went from 2000 people (2007 ish) to around 500 (2016/17) so its easy to see why it stopped after last year, its a lot of money to hire venues and fly DJs out, I've been told the costs and its hard to see how they made money the last few years.
Uproar will be doing another event in Birmingham soon I am told!
should be an uproar in bristol, bristol was always the biggest events in motion, it will need a hardstyle room to fill the void of bionic events being no more
after 6 years [ 2009 - 2015 ] of hardcore events being at motion every other month, there has'nt been an event for over a year
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skarr Advanced Member
United Kingdom
527 posts Joined: Dec, 2011
Posted - 2018/07/25 : 13:09:12
quote:Originally posted by Thumpa:
The last Uproar In The Dam was 2015, Uproar the brand has now changed hands and has had a succesful return event to Birmingham last weekend.
HTID had an event in London at the O2 in May that looked quite busy. HTID In The Sun went from 2000 people (2007 ish) to around 500 (2016/17) so its easy to see why it stopped after last year, its a lot of money to hire venues and fly DJs out, I've been told the costs and its hard to see how they made money the last few years.
Uproar will be doing another event in Birmingham soon I am told!
You said that the last in the sun did make money, Ajay told you it did ?I can remember you saying it.
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