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Hiffy_Maestro
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  13:47:50  Show profile Send a private message
I Know a lot of people on here are going to go on the offense. There was a time when I would have also. I just have to say something that has been on my mind for a while. Happy/UK Hardcore is some of the most spiritual music I have ever heard- second to only Liquid DnB (and this can be argued). Yes, It depends on what kinds you listen to, but as a whole, I feel that hardcore has been misunderstood for a long time because both the fans and the tourists don't recognize the underlying messages (or opportunities for interpretation). When I step back and look at it all, there are two types of HHC:

*Sad songs to a high bpm, happy tune
*or a happy tune, holding back a very sad feeling.

So many of the lovey dovey lyrics get passed off as childish, when really they represent what all humans struggle for. Unconditional love.

I have listened to, and appreciate many genres of music, but there is only one kind of music that, lyrically, resembles hardcore. That is the more subtle Cristian/Religious/Spiritual songs that you may or may not have heard. It is the innocence of it all that really made me realize this.

Honestly, I could probably write a book arguing this assertion, but that isn't why I am posting this.

I would like to reach out to hardcore producers, and let them know that they have, and can continue to open hearts, in ways that very few genres can.

We have entered a time where people are losing their faiths, and and others being born again, by the millions. Many of these people have no idea where to turn, spiritually.

My point is there is an opportunity to capture a new (and in many ways an old) audience, on a massive scale. How you do it is up to you. I am just letting you know that people want words of wisdom and they want love (unconditional), despite what modern dance is telling us.

If nothing else, keep doing what you are doing. It is still my favorite genre, and I admire you all more than you will ever know.



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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  13:56:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
This is an entirely subjective thing. For many people this won't be the case. Other people may have the the same experience for other genres. One thing i can agree on is that it brings together incredibly open people that you don't normally find in day to day life. Well, that used to be the case anyway. It's not what it once was.

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Triquatra
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  15:15:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
I find the lyrics to some of vinylgroover's songs deeply moving and spiritual



one of them in particular.


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Samination
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  15:24:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I find the lyrics to some of vinylgroover's songs deeply moving and spiritual



one of them in particular.



Wham Bam?


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  16:35:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I find the lyrics to some of vinylgroover's songs deeply moving and spiritual



one of them in particular.



Wham Bam?



I think that's a Kevin Energy track. Actually just checked they each did a Wham Bam track lol.

I was super happy that he ended is final US set here with this track


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Edited by - latininxtc on 2015/01/09 16:39:05
Samination
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Posted - 2015/01/09 :  18:16:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I find the lyrics to some of vinylgroover's songs deeply moving and spiritual



one of them in particular.



Wham Bam?



I think that's a Kevin Energy track. Actually just checked they each did a Wham Bam track lol.

I was super happy that he ended is final US set here with this track



Come to think about it, i think the vinylgroover track is actually call the Big Bang or something


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trippnface
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right there with you man. i am brought to the point of tears with hardcore on occasion; it certainly resonates very deeply . i think as you said; it being happy/ uk hardcore gives it a certain energy. there is no denying it is extremely carefree and upbeat; based around mostly love lol. i interpret it as spiritual but i would consider myself a very spiritual person . music can be very shamanistic and that is why so many cultures implemented it in various ways. life is vibration; , music is life. get a whole crew of people together listening to such a joyous sound and everybody belting out lyrics about love and feeling that euphoria; there is a palpable energy to me measured. it most definitely affects us on a subconscious level; perhaps even changing our brain waves from beta to alpha; which is the state people meditating exhibit. check out this link i think you will find it interesting :)
http://sfgirl-thealiennextdoor.blogspot.ca/2010/01/mozart-effect-power-of-music.html


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whispering
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Posted - 2015/01/11 :  20:46:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit whispering's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I find the lyrics to some of vinylgroover's songs deeply moving and spiritual



one of them in particular.



Wham Bam?



I think that's a Kevin Energy track. Actually just checked they each did a Wham Bam track lol.

I was super happy that he ended is final US set here with this track



Come to think about it, i think the vinylgroover track is actually call the Big Bang or something



Both are called Wham Bam. Vinylgroover one has female vocals.


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Triquatra
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Posted - 2015/01/11 :  22:04:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
I don't know what you are all talking about, I've never heard of any song called wham bam

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latininxtc
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quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I don't know what you are all talking about, I've never heard of any song called wham bam







There. Now you know 2


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Hard2Get
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quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I don't know what you are all talking about, I've never heard of any song called wham bam



Finally you have come to realise the shame of liking it.


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Triquatra
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Nope, doesn't ring any bells

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kotu
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Posted - 2015/01/28 :  17:44:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kotu's homepage
oF COURSE hardcore is spiritual - just listen to the basslines

i've said all i can now... meh


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Edited by - kotu on 2015/01/28 17:45:16
oxis
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Posted - 2015/01/28 :  18:05:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit oxis's homepage
honestly i am almost completely lyric deaf, but ive never felt like any hhc track really moved me or had lyrics that made me reflect on anything... not that i would want them to, i have no problems accepting that most of them are simply dancefloor bangers

a few of the moments that i consider somewhat mystic/spiritual in harcore tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeKrwsdKM0&t=4m6s the piano melody in this is pretty out there. the rest of the track is very fun aswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxrFXDyfltg&t=4m30s i really like this track. the melody tingles so many spots of my "feel spectrum". it makes me feel adventurous, melancholic, grandious, nostalgic and fug if i know more. especially striking in 180 bpm imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQU3K3daOTo&t=1m24s this one feels really grand and powerful to me, and the simplicity works. one of my favourite tracks in b17


a lot of the more emotional tracks seem to be coming from freeform though. a lot of the ones in the Stamina Podcast 6 are emotional. and they sound great :J


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Edited by - oxis on 2015/01/28 18:06:20
Elipton
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I don't think Hardcore in general is very spiritual, but I tried to instill some of what I was feeling with my album in 2013. From the feedback, I think it was communicated quite effectively :)



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