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Josephson_Junction
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 Posted - 2012/11/14 : 20:07:56
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Originally posted by whispering:
If you vote for someone else, your vote is more or less meaningless.
It would help if less people thought like that.
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whispering
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Posted - 2012/11/14 : 21:03:23
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Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
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Originally posted by whispering:
If you vote for someone else, your vote is more or less meaningless.
It would help if less people thought like that.
Its not about the thinking, its about your system. Here we have a majority vote, and if the winner gets less then 50% of all votes, there comes a second round with the 2 that got the most votes. This gives more room to vote whoever you think is the best. With 50 states, don't know what system would be best for you, but the current one isn't that, IMO.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/11/15 : 02:27:35
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
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Originally posted by whispering:
If you vote for someone else, your vote is more or less meaningless.
It would help if less people thought like that.
Its not about the thinking, its about your system. Here we have a majority vote, and if the winner gets less then 50% of all votes, there comes a second round with the 2 that got the most votes. This gives more room to vote whoever you think is the best. With 50 states, don't know what system would be best for you, but the current one isn't that, IMO.
We do have run-off elections for things like a mayoral vote, at least in my city. But yea that would be an ideal way of doing it.
We do actually have about 4 parties that are on the ballot this year: republican, democrat, independent and green party.
People keep saying that it's only a 2-party system. It's not a 2 party system, but it is a system that does favor two parties more. But that is not entirely the government's fault. The majority of people who say that we need a third party or we need to support a candidate from a less popular candidate don't do shit about it. Most of them won't go out and even vote. Also we are a nation that is really filled with more liberals, but there are a lot of them that don't ever vote for a damn thing.
Also voting for a third party is not always meaningless. Remember a vote for one candidate is also a vote against another one. Look at what Ross Perot did in 1992, and Ralph Nader being a big time spoiler in the 2000 election. Some view him as the reason why Gore lost that race.
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Posted - 2016/03/09 : 15:24:51
reviving this, because, well you know, I still have a trumping boner for Ivanka
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/03/09 : 15:55:48
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reviving this, because, well you know, I still have a trumping boner for Ivanka
So does her dad. No wonder why he's so popular with the inbred trash of the south.
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Posted - 2016/03/09 : 19:27:02
BERNIE FKN SHIT UP
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Samination
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Posted - 2016/03/09 : 19:48:35
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BERNIE FKN SHIT UP
do you mean in a good way or a crap way? :P
Anyway, if bernie does get it, i hope he doesnt take too much of the scandinavian politics, because they are screwing things up big time, with the racists and bigots taking over more and more (just check out denmark and norway, with sweden and finland not to far from getting racists parties into the government)
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/03/09 : 20:09:02
Bernie Sanders won Michigan, which is a huge upset to Clinton's campaign because every voter predicted her as the winner. He won the popular vote there by about 1.5% more than Hillary, but he only picked up 7 more delegates than she did.
In Mississippi, the other state that had a Democratic primary yesterday, Hillary won over 82% of the popular vote. She picked up 29 delegates, whereas Bernie only picked up 4. So even though Hillary failed to win the biggest delegate prize, Michigan, she still won yesterday overall. March 15 is the next primary and Hillary is predicted to be the winner in all states which are Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio. I have a feeling she will lose Ohio, but will win Illinois and Florida. Missouri and NC are a tossup, but if she loses it won't be by a large margin.
If Bernie has any chance of winning, he'll have to win states by a large margin and that won't happen until much later. Considering that he is picking up little superdelegates, Hillary has 472 while Bernie has 23, he has to work mostly on the delegates from primary voting. Even without the superdelegates, Bernie is still over 200 behind Hillary.
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Posted - 2016/03/26 : 20:55:20
watch him take all 3 today.
the south is done voting; time for the PNW and all the liberal pot smoking hippies to vote :) .
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Posted - 2016/03/26 : 21:00:26
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
BERNIE FKN SHIT UP
do you mean in a good way or a crap way? :P
Anyway, if bernie does get it, i hope he doesnt take too much of the scandinavian politics, because they are screwing things up big time, with the racists and bigots taking over more and more (just check out denmark and norway, with sweden and finland not to far from getting racists parties into the government)
i support immigration; but not the governments who support US warmongering that create the immigrants ;).
if i was a euro country i would tell USA to **** off; and we will be taking ZERO refugees until the pathetic USA stops bombing the middle east and creating them! unfortunately most countries besides Russia fail to stand up to the USA machine :(
nobody is more racist than these sociopath politicians sanctioning bombing of 3rd world nations..
not surprised the right wing parties are gaining; the so called "liberals" like merkel in germany are ****ing ruining the country! NATO and the EU are scum and trying to start a race war; i hope all counties speak out and begin taking their leave.
we will see how far sanders chooses to take socialist policies ( both economic & foreign relation )
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/03/26 : 22:30:35
Damn what time did the polls close??? Here I thought they would close by 7PM local time.
Yea everyone knew that Bernie would win Alaska and Washington. He needs to win by a large margin in Washington to make a big dent today, and it looks like he might do that.
Just because the south is done voting doesn't mean Hillary is done for. She's still the likely winner in Kentuky, West Virginia, New York, New Mexico and California. The rest of New England looks to favor her for the win. It's going to be close and it may come down to the superdelegate votes, which Bernie will surely lose that way.
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Posted - 2016/03/26 : 23:31:09
Absolutely nothing is more interesting than foreign politics.
HIS SURNAME IS TRUMP FOR FUCKS SAKE!
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Posted - 2016/03/28 : 20:39:21
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
Absolutely nothing is more interesting than foreign politics.
HIS SURNAME IS TRUMP FOR FUCKS SAKE!
i will vote for trump over hillary :p
no way hillary has cali; easily as liberal as washington.
also; hillary is refusing to debate bernie is NY; and the election date is the day before 4/20 ( lets not forget hillarys staunch support of the war on drugs; and wall street. ny is home to occupy wall street. )
i expect a close race.
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Posted - 2016/04/14 : 16:48:30
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Posted - 2016/04/14 : 19:19:24
How unfortunate to see a hardcore DJ supporting Bernie.
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