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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2012/09/01 : 00:20:06
It's an idea that had crossed my mind a couple of times especially after HTID ITS, but lately it's something that I am seriously considering. I'm a bit tired of things here in the US, and it's not the political shenanigans, or the city I live in. It's mostly I'm tired of the people. Seems I connect way better with so many ppl @ HTID ITS whereas here in the US the ravers just make me sick to my stomach. Plus I feel the many ppl I met there I just got along with so well, and it's beyond just having similar tastes in music.
So if I were to actually do it, how does one go about it? I know that they have 6 month work programs, but those mostly cater to university students and under 30 (I'm not quite 30 yet but I have months left). That seems like a great idea to tests the waters out to see if it can just be something I do permanently. I would greatly appreciate any advice ppl can give me.
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Posted - 2012/09/01 : 11:07:55
I don't think I can offer much advice other than I would expect it would be costly and time consuming
might be worth it if you're sitting on a bumload of cash and can get a lawyer to do all the hard work. but then where you end up in the UK might not be to your liking.
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Posted - 2012/09/01 : 11:49:13
My only advice is don't go anywhere near Bradford...
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wong
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Posted - 2012/09/01 : 12:04:05
just stay clear of england, wales, scotland and northern ireland ( and any other small islands ) and you'll be fine
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 10:13:42
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Originally posted by wong:
just stay clear of england, wales, scotland and northern ireland ( and any other small islands ) and you'll be fine
The Isle of Mann isn't officialy part of the UK. A good place to start?
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 10:14:54
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Originally posted by wong:
just stay clear of england, wales, scotland and northern ireland ( and any other small islands ) and you'll be fine
The Isle of Mann isn't officially part of the UK so would be a good place to start...
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 10:34:28
I wouldn't expect the people you met at HTID to necessarily be representative of the UK if I were you. We're probably the most cynical people on the planet.
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wong
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 11:00:39
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by wong:
just stay clear of england, wales, scotland and northern ireland ( and any other small islands ) and you'll be fine
The Isle of Mann isn't officially part of the UK so would be a good place to start...
but what if he has a phobia of cats with no tails?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 12:31:01
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I wouldn't expect the people you met at HTID to necessarily be representative of the UK if I were you. We're probably the most cynical people on the planet.
Yeah. They are also wasted. In a rave you're going to be meeting a lot of like minded people, but that's not the case for England (or anywhere) in general. Although no doubt you may just appreciate the general differences between Americans and English people even if they aren't ones we consider to be good (or bad).
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Posted - 2012/09/02 : 15:37:02
Yeah hardcore is a very small scene over here, living in a regular UK town you will very rarely meet anyone into the music and you may also never even have a hardcore event in your area.
The people at HTID in the Sun are on holiday so letting their hair down and just having a good time with no worries, most of them will just work a mundane 9-5 and live for the weekend when they go to see the same DJs and MCs every week just in a different club.
Also at 29 years old you have to ask yourself how much longer will you enjoy hardcore? Most of the raves will be full of people 5-10 years younger than you.
If you are considering moving here for the hardcore scene and its people....then dont. If however you think the UK can give you a better life etc then you can always look to give it a try and just return to America if you dont like it
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Posted - 2012/09/03 : 20:23:25
Maybe worth a visit but not much more.
You have Luna C over there so some good raves must be about ;)
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/09/04 : 04:41:19
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Originally posted by Mad Max:
Maybe worth a visit but not much more.
You have Luna C over there so some good raves must be about ;)
BAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a big f**k no. The Houston scene is always controlled by what's mainstream, so mostly electro and dubstep is played there. We're lucky if we even have one UK hardcore DJ here, but even that really isn't fullfilling for me anymore.
Seattle has a good UK hardcore scene, mostly being led by Jimni Cricket. Phoenix has some great parties at least one a year. They've booked Dougal, Gammer, Darren Styles, Breeze, and I think Re-con and/or Hixxy. Nashville has some decent shows that always has heavy UK Hardcore influence because it's the promoter's favorite style. I went there just to see Kevin Energy on his last stop for the US tour. He's also had S3RL, Cotts & Ravine, as well as Hixxy playing later this month. Sadly Tennessee EDM will have their last event ever with Hixxy.
Even though there are scenes around the US that may be worthwhile to move closer to, it's not the same as what's available in the UK. You don't have variety here. It's either S3RL-like stuff or Clubland style mainstream hardcore, and I'm not even talking about the electrocore or dubcore, although there are a handful of tracks that are played from those genres here. You don't get much freeform at all, Hardcore Underground label hardly ever gets any attention, and there's virtually no dnb/breakbeat hardcore here either.
Plus I really don't like the ravers here in the US. Many have the mentalities of spoiled immature children. They hardly ever know many producers, labels, track names, etc, they complain about having to pay 15USD or more for any show here, regardless of whether there's a big name headliner (which rarely ever is, but then again I don't really follow other genres besides hardcore so I wouldn't really know that much about them). There is more drug usage and ravers here can't handle them properly either. Also many events here are not run properly.
I met a good number of 30+, 40+ ravers at HTID In The Sun. They have careers, they have responsibilities that they take care of, and they still manage to make time to make it to as many events as possible. In general, all the ones I met are good people with a good head on their shoulders. They're mature adults, who know how to properly get loose at these events without making complete asses out of themselves, with the exception of Jay of course 
It's not just the hardcore scene that I'd like to move to the UK for, it's also to be as close to Europe as possible. I haven't traveled much, and my trip to Spain was the first time in over 11 years that I have ever left the US. The only places I've been to before that were Mexico to visit family in a small town in the middle of nowhere, and a one day cruise to the Bahamas for a school trip. I've always wanted to travel, and when I was in Spain I thought to myself "why the f**k did I not do more trips like these sooner???" There is so much of Europe that I would like to see (Paris, Rome, Amsterdam, Germany, a return to Madrid and Barcelona, as well as visiting new cities, etc.) and being in the US it's a bitch on airplane tickets.
So yea sorry for the long posts but thought this would be easier than replying to each of your posts one by one. But yes I don't want to necessarily pick up and just move there without testing the country out first. Next year I would like to take another 2 weeks off but instead of spending my other days exploring Spain, I thought I could just fly from here in the US to the UK and just take a plane from the UK to Spain. That way whatever time I'm not in Spain (perhaps a few days before next year's HTID ITS and days after the event) I can spend all that time getting to know the UK and their 'cynical' people. Either that or enter a work abroad program that let's me live there for 6ish months and that'll give me plenty experience on making a life there.
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Posted - 2012/09/04 : 11:19:59
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Sadly Tennessee EDM will have their last event ever with Hixxy.
How is it possible for anyone to know such a thing?
Either way one thing is for sure, you would be absolutely spoiled for raves in the UK compared to in the US, and that's not including the many many raves outside of the Hardcore genre. Having to travel to another state for what would be a small scale rave here is totally overkill (not that it's not good to travel, but it's nice to not have to travel 100's of miles just because you have no other choice). This whole country probably isn't as big as the state you live in.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/09/04 : 11:54:02
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Sadly Tennessee EDM will have their last event ever with Hixxy.
How is it possible for anyone to know such a thing?
Sorry that doesn't look right lol. Tennessee EDM is the name of the production company that threw events mainly in Nashville. They have announced their last event to be the one that they booked Hixxy for. The rest of the state of Tennessee still has raves in other cities, but Nashville will be without one until someone decides to start another promotion company.
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Posted - 2012/09/04 : 16:57:26
There are alot of raves in the UK but if you do want to be close to ones going on then dont live in the North of England. A hardcore DJ hasnt played in my town for years now and while I could travel to raves a couple of hours away, the trains stop running in the early hours so getting home from 2 hours away at 4am can be a damn hard task!
Most nightclubs in most cities in the UK just play pop music along with RnB, Dubstep, Electro House etc, you would be hard pressed to find anything over about 140bpm on a standard Saturday night in most towns and cities unless you really went searching for it and didnt mind visiting the "rough and run-down" clubs. The nicer clubs tend to stick to whats popular.
HTID used to hold an event every 3 months or so at Syndicate in Blackpool. This was the biggest nightclub in the UK.....Syndicate is now shutdown, alot of superclubs are shutting down because alot of people just cant go to them every week anymore.
Drum n Bass events (at least on a large scale with headline names) are almost always in the London area and are quite frequent, I have never known people like Netsky, Camo & Krooked or Danny Byrd to play in my area.
Please be aware that while the hardcore scene is bigger over here...its all relative. We only have 50 million or so people in the whole country and alot of them dont like hardcore, are too old/young to go to nightclubs or dont want to spend their saturday nights surrounded by drug fueled chavs ;)
The likelyhood is that its the same few thousand people that go to the raves all over the country. This is great if you want to be part of a community and make like-minded friends, but the whole HTID RAVERS UNITE etc thing never really appealed to me, I go clubbing with friends to meet new people and see different DJs, not to see the same people and a rotation of the same 20-30 DJs every week :)
One final thing about UK raves....MC's. I dont know how big they are in USA, but in UK....expect them at every single rave. 95% of them are absolutely terrible and cant rhyme in time to the music or will MC over singing and 99% of people in the country hate MC's whether its hardcore or donk!
As for normal life....the UK isnt bad. Every country has problems and while other European countries like Sweden & Norway may have better living standards and education systems and less crime....they are also super expensive. However Europe is great, as you said you are literally 1-4 hours flight away from anywhere in Europe and its dirt cheap to get there. Expect a flight from Manchester or London to Barcelona/Madrid or Paris to cost around 30GBP each way depending on when you go (about 50USD). Low cost air travel at its best! Its more expensive than it used to be, I once got return flights from Liverpool to Milan for 2.10GBP (3.50USD) in May...the minimum for a flight these days is around 20GBP....still cheaper than a train!
Bare in mind that the further south in England you go the more expensive it gets (and the worst the accents get). People down south are also less friendly than up North :p
250,000GBP would buy you a nice 3 bedroom house in the North of England with gardens and a garage etc. In London or nearby you would probably get a 1 bedroom flat for the same price.
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Posted - 2012/09/04 : 17:21:46
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Bare in mind that the further south in England you go the more expensive it gets (and the worst the accents get).
How does a southern English accent sound like? Is that were all the rich and snobby people live? :p
Don't they also have nice beaches and all that?
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