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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/03 :  12:47:41     hey peeps..
 after my little foret into house music here is a little piece.. very much in a D+B stylee..
 I found a very cheeky vocal hook that i wanted to use.. and some dirty bass lines!!
 
 feedback welcome.
 
 as always all my tunes are on youtube.com/hardcoreharryuk
 
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 DOWNLOAD THIS DOWNLOAD HAS BEEN UPDATED AS OF 11:23 on tuesday (SO now VERSION 3  - SAME DOWNLOAD below)
 
 http://www.4shared.com/file/122584701/8bb3c931/Hardcore_Harry_-_Nasty.html
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/03 :  23:09:37       BUMP BUMP!!
 
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        | atomsk Advanced Member
 
      
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  00:59:51       listening to it right now
 ill listen 2 more times, ill leave some feed back.....love the bass so far, pretty rocking
 
 @2:14-2:25
 i think you should be redone 100%
 i really think that part kills the whole song, it just brings the song to a halting stop... i know its a outro but it still brings it down...
 
 i also think you should stick to the same clap in the whole song
 
 i like the piano, idk if that was from the sample but i like it
 
 maybe make the bass more grimy/dirty but keep it deep
 
 other than them i like it, 7/10.. i hope i wasnt to mean =b
 hope theres a rev3
 also maybe a lil longer?
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  09:23:01       
 quote:Originally posted by atomsk:
 listening to it right now
 ill listen 2 more times, ill leave some feed back.....love the bass so far, pretty rocking
 
 @2:14-2:25
 i think you should be redone 100%
 i really think that part kills the whole song, it just brings the song to a halting stop... i know its a outro but it still brings it down...
 
 i also think you should stick to the same clap in the whole song
 
 i like the piano, idk if that was from the sample but i like it
 
 maybe make the bass more grimy/dirty but keep it deep
 
 other than them i like it, 7/10.. i hope i wasnt to mean =b
 hope theres a rev3
 also maybe a lil longer?
 
 
 
 cheers for feedback..
 i think ur right the outro/breakdown doesnt really work.. especially with the vocal too (ive re listening about 20times since post)
 i'm probably going to take all of that out now..
 
 do work more on the b-line.. add some effects / changes..
 the piano is from the actual vocal sample.. but im going to see if there are other parts of the tune i can sample to add just a piano.. hopefully there is!
 
 but it is a cracking sample i have to say.. the joys of listening to radio 2 early on a sat morning!! hahah that's where the samples are guys.. ;-)
 
 will also look at the breakbeat.. the main reason for so many diff breakbeats is i dont usual make D+B and was seeing what fitted/playing around..
 
 but i agree defo worth a version three..
 
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        | Mortis Advanced Member
 
      
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  10:49:24       Had a quick listen and I think the track has potential but needs some work on it. I think the shaker is way to loud and the vocal maybe a bit over used. The rhodes piano is nice but I think maybe a play around with the sound a bit because it's not sharp enough if you know what I mean. I just noticed you said the piano is a sample, have you thought about re-creating it so it sounds a bit crisper?
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  11:12:55       
 quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
 Had a quick listen and I think the track has potential but needs some work on it. I think the shaker is way to loud and the vocal maybe a bit over used. The rhodes piano is nice but I think maybe a play around with the sound a bit because it's not sharp enough if you know what I mean. I just noticed you said the piano is a sample, have you thought about re-creating it so it sounds a bit crisper?
 
 
 
 cheers for the feedback.. i'm just going through a version three.
 taken out whole soft outro and replaced with second HEAVY b line..
 the sample is only really used in the intro so keeping in a very old skool kinda way..
 so it is blantantly a sample if that makes sense..
 
 turning into a hard d+b track at the moment.. so we'll see where it ends up!
 
 will post soon..
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  11:27:00       version three now uploaded!!
 same download as original
 
 http://www.4shared.com/file/122584701/8bb3c931/Hardcore_Harry_-_Nasty.html
 
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        | Mortis Advanced Member
 
      
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  14:44:58       Still think the sample is overused in the intro, it's a shame the piano and vocal can't be separated. The square sound that you've got going on @ 40 odd seconds just doesn't sound right, but from 1:00 mark it gets good. Not sure if the bass needs to come down an octave to give it a bit more of a deep bassy feeling. Try Valsier (if your not already) for Cube::Hard, CLSM style basslines.
 
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        | Meathead Advanced Member
 
      
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  16:35:08       I think like Mortis said the sample is way over used. The stuttering started to do my head in, tbh i was hoping when i heard the first few seconds it would be something like this, but obviously not House. That's what i was hoping anyway. Nice clean use of the sample which i think may work better as appose to the stuttering thing. Can you direct me to a link (youtube or something) just so i can see for myself if it would work or there are other elements like drums or something that come in that would ruin it.
 
 That lead sample is out of key with the samples piano and vocals i'm sure, it doesn't sound right to me anyway.
 
 When the track comes in i really like it (i believe it's the 3rd version yeah?), liking the gritty bass though i think the drums are a bit lacking. They're just not aggresive enough for me. If you're attempting some Hard D&B they're not up to it, look at people like Current Value, Donny, Spor Hard D&B experts. You don't dance to their drums, they kick the shit out of you.
 
 Just my very jumbled, poorly explained thoughts on this one mate. It's got some serious potential, but at the moment it needs more work imo. Wouldn't mind hearing it again if you decide to give it another overhaul.
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  17:54:14       cheers for all the feedback.. and i do agree.
 the sample is wicked (i think) but overused..
 the piano is actually within the vocal sample so im sure not out of key..
 basically its just one sample.. (although slight pitched up)
 
 i certainly wouldnt say the track is finished.. but there's something there thats making me want to work more on it.
 even if its starting again and just using elements of the original.
 
 i agree on the drums too.. i've not really mastered them particulary.. just arranged them more than anyhting.
 
 i quite like the 2nd B line but i'm going to double layer each bline to give them more depth!
 
 I'm also going to be a bit of an arse of not point u towards the original sample lol
 maybe when im done!!
 
 but i do apreciate the feedback..
 
 look forward to hearing all your tunes soon too.
 
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  18:47:22       
 quote:Originally posted by HardcoreHarryUK:
 cheers for all the feedback.. and i do agree.
 the sample is wicked (i think) but overused..
 the piano is actually within the vocal sample so im sure not out of key..
 basically its just one sample.. (although slight pitched up)
 
 i certainly wouldnt say the track is finished.. but there's something there thats making me want to work more on it.
 even if its starting again and just using elements of the original.
 
 i agree on the drums too.. i've not really mastered them particulary.. just arranged them more than anyhting.
 
 i quite like the 2nd B line but i'm going to double layer each bline to give them more depth!
 
 I'm also going to be a bit of an arse of not point u towards the original sample lol
 maybe when im done!!
 
 but i do apreciate the feedback..
 
 look forward to hearing all your tunes soon too.
 
 Peace
 
 :-)
 
 
 
 I mean the sort of stab sample that comes in just before the the track comes in and then plays through the track, sounds out of key with the piano from the track you've sampled.
 
 Lol i wasn't planning on doing a version myself mate, i just wanted to see how the track progressed so i'd know whether or not it would have been possibel to use more of the sample. Found it myself anyway, tapped the lyrics into google ;).
 
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        | HardcoreHarryUK Junior Member
 
   
  
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 |  Posted - 2009/08/04 :  19:19:54       
 
 Lol i wasn't planning on doing a version myself mate, i just wanted to see how the track progressed so i'd know whether or not it would have been possibel to use more of the sample. Found it myself anyway, tapped the lyrics into google ;).
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 DAM GOOGLE LOL!!
 
 cheers for feedback..
 i get u about the part being out of key.. probably is..
 as its the original sample pitched up high.. and used as a stab
 cheers for help.
 
 the original where the sample is from is cool isnt it?
 
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