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slik_stylez
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2006/05/27 : 11:52:18
Hello all.
I've had my Ion CD Decks for a while now and still havn't managed to beatmatch...it's rally frustrating stuff...
I've looked on many tutorial web pages and most of them say 'Keep practicing'. I suppose that is an obvious yet helpful tip, but is there a certain trick to doing it? I've been going for hours on end trying to match a simple 4/4 beat, but it just isn't happening.
Help would be appreciated :)
Slik
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/05/27 : 13:16:53
if u aint got a clue after a while id suggest using the same track and set both decks to 0%
if you do this you should have it beatmatched... then you can concentrate on learning how to move the track forwards and back to get them playing at exactly the same time. once you manage to move them out of sync, and get them back in, use a differant song on the second cd deck and keep moving your track forwards/backwards (second deck) till they are sync'd, when they start going out, move the track forward of back again, and figure out which way it is that you are having to move the track to get it in again. when you have this info you now know wheather ur track is playing too fast or too slow. adjust the pitch accordingly!
i think thats pretty much all you need to know. when you practise all this will eventually come as second nature and you wont have to think as much
if anything is un-clear just ask
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Leto
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Posted - 2006/05/27 : 14:13:44
Mr. Jackson pretty much said it all.
The only think I can add is that once you get beatmatching down, the rest flows nicely...
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slik_stylez
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Posted - 2006/05/27 : 14:48:46
Wow, that has actually helped loads.
Cheers for the tip, spose now that i've got the hang of it at least a little bit, all I can do now is practice...
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thecrazyg
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Posted - 2006/05/28 : 09:55:36
practice is really it.
Ive been mixing for about 1.5 years now (probably mixing a good 10-15 hours a week), i got a demo recorded in about march that im really happy with (nothing technical, just smooth, clean transitions)
At one point i sold my decks and gave up - thinking i would never get it, but i just couldnt live without them so 3 weeks later i had another set, and just a few days after getting decks back recorded the mix i was so happy with.
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Rooney
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Posted - 2006/05/28 : 12:03:08
ok heres a good tip , if you want to learn how to beatmatch properly , count 32 beats , and release the track (on the beat) on the 32nd beat, then control the speed of the vinyl with your hands/pitch , good luck !
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Mortis
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Posted - 2006/05/28 : 12:35:30
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Originally posted by DJ_JaXoN:
if u aint got a clue after a while id suggest using the same track and set both decks to 0%
if you do this you should have it beatmatched... then you can concentrate on learning how to move the track forwards and back to get them playing at exactly the same time. once you manage to move them out of sync, and get them back in, use a differant song on the second cd deck and keep moving your track forwards/backwards (second deck) till they are sync'd, when they start going out, move the track forward of back again, and figure out which way it is that you are having to move the track to get it in again. when you have this info you now know wheather ur track is playing too fast or too slow. adjust the pitch accordingly!
i think thats pretty much all you need to know. when you practise all this will eventually come as second nature and you wont have to think as much
if anything is un-clear just ask
What he said.
Yes practise is the key, once you have the basics down it'll come naturally. One thing I would say is don't try to hard, don't try & force a set. If it's not working it's not working, don't get annoyed & try too much because it won't happen. Everyone makes mistakes, have fun not frustration.
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clarke101
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Posted - 2006/05/28 : 22:45:08
To start with try mixing on the intro and outro only
and learn your tracks inside and out so you know exactly what going to happen and when.
Dont be afraid to just mess about its supposed to be fun.
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tunnelrush
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Posted - 2006/05/29 : 06:24:49
what helped me learn quicker was (once i had the tunes beatmatched) i would purposely play my incoming song a little faster then play it a little slower. This gets you used to distinguishing two beats that are off. Now i can tell which is faster and which one is lagging.
Trust me, when you start off; it all sounds like noise. It can be sorta intimidating. Good luck.
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silver
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Posted - 2006/05/29 : 08:20:04
Like someone else already said, there are three general things to DJing:
1. Getting used to speeding up and slowing down records - getting used to the records.
2. Getting the beats in time - find the right speeds and hearing the two different tunes in your head.
3. Knowing the tunes, knowing when to stop / start, volumes and different styles of mxing the tunes.
I recommend you start with hip hop or slow trance, use two of the same record, start at zero pitch and get used to point 1.
Next, get two records from the same artist or label, make sure they sound simular, get used to point 2.
Next get two records from the same genre, make sure they sound the same and are around the same speed (see point 2), get used to point 3.
Repeat with faster genres until you get to hardcore or whatever your looking to mix, basically hardcore is quite hard to mix because of the vocals, complexity and the speed so don't expect to run before you can walk.
From here there are other things... scratching, sampling, 3 decks etc... but if you can't do those points listed above you shouldn't move on to anything advanced.
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