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SO FRUSTRATED WITH PADS!

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MaGiC_MuShRooM
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Posted - 2006/05/23 :  18:33:47  Show profile Send a private message
okay sorry about the caps but im SO frustrated with pads! they always sound depressing and just generally not very uplifting or happy! Has anyone got any tips on making a nice happy pad? COz im at a COMPLETE loss here. Help would be much appreciated!

*edit* Moved to Production forum :-)


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Posted - 2006/05/23 :  19:03:02  Show profile  Send a private message
who said pads had to be happy? =P

I always find puting a piano over a pad makes it happier


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Posted - 2006/05/23 :  19:34:09  Show profile  Send a private message
happy pads = good chords and progression.

thats all really.. i dont know the theory well enough to tell u more, i just go by ear.

someone else might tho


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Try tampons!

Sorry. I had to, such a perfect opporunity.

Anyway, XtarsiA knows where its at, he's musically gifted. ^_^


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quote:
Originally posted by Leto:
Try tampons!

Sorry. I had to, such a perfect opporunity.

Anyway, XtarsiA knows where its at, he's musically gifted. ^_^



HAHA made me laugh


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Posted - 2006/05/23 :  21:28:52  Show profile  Send a private message
lol

ok i thought of something..

take all ur notes u allready have and paste all of them over the top of each other in a fresh place

then just find a decent progression / chords

if u limit all the notes that u pasted into 1 octive, and make the chords an octive above so u can tell them apart easily, all the notes below give an idea as to what scale/key ur in

major/sus2/sus4 are generally simplest for "happy" but u dont have to stick to them try adding extra notes hear and there, another thing is try and keep 1, maybe even 2 notes carry from one chord to the next though not entirely nessecary, but can give some smoothness to ur pads..

just go by ear really, play about till u have something that sounds good, and dont just stick to what u know, experiment abit too.

another thing, spreading ur pads out across more than 1 octive, or even duping a note from each bar but -1oct can give some depth/warmth

erm yeah.. load of waffle but might be somthing that helps


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Listen to XtarsiA (and when you're done, read what he has to say, too )!

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Posted - 2006/05/24 :  19:40:29  Show profile  Send a private message
I'd just like to elaborate a little on what has allready been said above and give some examples.

OK, Your after happy pads so the first and most simple thing would be to choose a major key, eg C, as it only uses the white notes, it's an easy way to learn music theory.

Now you need a chord progression, and we can start with the root note and have the first chord as a Cmaj (major) using notes C, E and G. From here we need to progress to the next chord and the most obvious choice would be Em (minor), as this shares two notes with the previous chord, using notes, E, G, and B. (This is what XtarsiA is talking about you carry notes across to the next chord). From here you could go to Gmaj as this also shares two notes with the previous chord, using notes G, B and D.

This could now be your chord progression and you could spread these out over 4bars and hold one chord for two of those bars. You could use those chords for your pads and then create a melody on top using those notes and also any you think sound good with each chord.

But you don't have to use all of those notes or you could use more if you wanted to.

If we look back at the notes allready used, you'll see that G is used in every chord, so you could create a melody using those chords and then have a pad on top that just plays a single note of G which runs over the whole melody, Such as a high string before a break down adding tension before bringing in your pad sequence.

Or you could add another note to each of those chords, such as a B to the Cmaj, creating a Cmaj7. Or a D to the Em, creating an Em7. And then add an E to to the Gmaj which would also create an Em7 but in it's first inversion. (Thas assuming you just stuck the note on top) This would create a harmony with the chords used and could be used with the pad or as a pad itself over your melody.



Inverting a chord just means to take the bottom note of the chord (or bottom two and stick it (or them) an octave higher (or lower).

And just a little on writing chord names, You'll notice that I wrote maj after a chord that is major, well you don't have to do that, you can just write C for example, if it's Cmajor. Allways assume a chord a major unless it says it's not eg: Cm, meaning it's minor.


I hope I haven't gone on and told you shit you allready know, Just helping out.


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