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Em Jay
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 Posted - 2005/01/26 : 18:58:56
i got in a really deep and interesting conversation last night,
it was about people with demention.
i know it sounds quite harsh, but i said that if old people live in a home and suffer from demention and they cant remember who they are and their family, and if they cant do anything for themself, is there any point in them being alive? and i dont mean they have no use, but i mean what are they living for?
so we started talking about Euthanasia and if its a good idea or not?
if a new law came out and it became legal, would you sign your life away?
hit me with your ideas please...
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 19:04:42
With other people and other peoples familys yes i do agree with euthanasia, yes if i came down with something terminal i would sign my life on the line
but if it came to my own family i honestly dont think i would be able to kill someone i love so much, i know its selfish but i honestly think thats how i would react.. thers no point lying.. but my family is so small and so close and means the world to me and i have never *touch wood & thank god* lost anyone close to me, and never want to, bt yet i know its a part of life.
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Em Jay
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 19:09:44
heh sowwy luc i know its a bit depressing!!! *hugs*
you made a good point actually. which my dad made about the family side... he said he wouldnt want anyone else to decide to die, but would do it for himself
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 19:50:46
quote:
Originally posted by Emmy:
it was about people with demention.
i know it sounds quite harsh, but i said that if old people live in a home and suffer from demention and they cant remember who they are and their family, and if they cant do anything for themself, is there any point in them being alive?
Yes there is, they dont want to die, they just cant remember. There is much for them to still do. For their family it can be extremely frustrating going through same conversations like 1000 times in a row, but life sucks in that way. I deliver mail at hospital, there was once this women who always remembered she was on a cruise... she seemed very happy :)
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Em Jay
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 20:04:56
and that is exactly the point i was trying to conclude myself...
Now i think. "arrr nah if i get that state just kill me off.. i dont want to be like that..." but if i became deranged myself i wouldnt know if i wanted a pee or not let alone whether i wanted to die or not
do you see what i am trying to say?
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 20:10:31
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do you see what i am trying to say?
Yea, but personally i'm too afraid of dying to sign such things.
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 20:22:04
speaking of dying...I "almost died" a few years ago...Fell onto some spiked fencing (Security kind) and pierced my arm ripping it open...went to hospital, got 20 stitches and was told that if i'd moved a mm the wrong way while climbing off-I wouldn't have lasted more than a few minutes...Thought it would have changed me but it hasn't....
Death is a pretty hard topic to write about and unfortunatly...i've lost a lot of loved ones...but it's something that happens and we've no control over it...we can only delay it.
As for signing my life away...I wouldn't want to...I'd prefer to die "naturally" than by some injection or let my family decide...
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steve O
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 20:56:42
This is a very hard thing to talk about but i agree with Lucy. I f i was terminally ill and in pain I would tell my family to pull the plug (so to speak) but even if another family member wanted to die, I couldnt personally do it as I would feel responsible. The thing with dementia is that the person isnt necessarily in pain and they dont really know whats goin on. So to sum up....I honestly dont know what I would do (probs depend on the situation)
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Posted - 2005/01/26 : 23:09:31
Fair play to ya emmy pal cant say i've seen this topic on the board before  . Tis a really mad subject though cos i always thought i'd not be scared of death then i ended up with the septicemia type of meningitus and it was scary as ****. Thankfully i was in a life support machine and didnt no what was goin on most the time, would've hated to be my family stood watchin it knowin exactly what was happenin. Can understand it didnt really change you mustapha everyones different but it changed everythin about the way i think about most things in life especially family and how i look after my health. Proper pissed me off cos i was right into my fitba, in teams and everythin and after that i couldnt even walk round the block for about 6 month without collapsin. Now i'm always keepin fit into kickboxin eatin the right stuff and i've got my first fight in the ring comin up so i've defo came through it alright after lots of effort. Agree with lucy aswell though cos is all good in thory if someone wants it my gran used to always say "if i go doo lally i dont want to live any longer" but when she does get ill your hardly gonna pull the plug when you still love them and dont want to let go. Quality topic as i said emmy pal keep em comin, deep conversations are the business kepp your mind goin.
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 Posted - 2005/01/26 : 23:58:54
I read a papor in english class a year ago written by a doctor. There was a man who was dying and kept having heart attacks or something where his heart would stop. There was no way he could get any better. Each time they would have to revive him. Sometimes 3 or 5 times a day. And after the first few times the man would plead to be let go and just die in peace( so did the family). But with the law the doctor could not let him. I think people should be able to die, but not put to death. Like life support or like this guy with the heart problem. I dont think the law can tell us we cant die if we want to. I do not like the ideal of someone killing themselves or someone els killing them. Thats different and not right.
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 00:39:57
Isn't it called dementia?
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 00:51:16
Glad things worked out for you baldo mate...Not sure why I wasn't affected though, It looked so surreal, as if it wasn't my arm...It was ripped open revealing veins,arteries,tendons,muscles...the lot, but it didn't hurt or bleed...
It's interesting what cotteincandy said about the law and the family's wishes...In circumstances like that, I believe the decision should be made strongly in the hands of the family...but like what lucy said...It would be easier to have it done onto yourself than having to do it to others...
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 04:03:46
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...I "almost died" a few years ago...
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 05:24:48
i got my head smacked between three people and the corner where the ice meets the boards when i went in for a puck and had someone hit me low, the someone check me from behind knocking me down and they both fell on top of me. i thought my neck was broken, and i couldn't move for like ten minutes. with my body laying on the ice i felt cold, so i thought my neck was broke for sure, i just had people standing over me cutting my uniform in half trying to get me to do stuff, i got up after a bit and skated off the ice, but i haven't been able to turn my head all the way to the side since, plus i recieved a concussion and a cracked eye socket. i head was smashed to where my helmet popped off and i got a crack in my forhead. it sucked.
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 16:59:37
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Isn't it called dementia?
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Posted - 2005/01/27 : 17:07:55
^^^ Lol, i only realised that you wrote demention after reading that!
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