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Anyone know what sample packs these drums are from

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Posted - 2020/10/13 :  03:50:19  Show profile
Hello everyone. So, I was listening to some 2000s happy hardcore, and I've always wondered what sample packs (or series/volumes)producers use for the drums (particularly the characteristic claps/ clap snares). I know they are not Vengeance Essential Clubsounds, because none of their claps/snares sound anything like the ones I'm looking for, nor am I looking for "artist" sample packs (like the ones on Loopmasters for Sy and Unknown or Breeze and Styles). I want to know the actual origin of these samples (I know producers were using them even before Vengeance was even around, like in 2003, and other producers were using these same or similar ones).

Here are some example tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LRXoMBlUZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6aK2oPrmCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9LvXRd_6ac

So, anyone know what sample packs these drums (especially the claps/clap snares) come from?


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I can guarantee you that the artists are layering their snares. They probably took one sample and cut it off short and then layer that with another sample.


I don?t know if you?ve ever tried layering drums before, It?s a real treat to create your own drum sounds


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Could be some kind of ROMpler. Maybe the m1, e-mu orbit (rackmount synth), or even nexus.

There definitely was a moment where Breeze & Styles and Sy and Unknown used vengeance packs extensively, including nexus. Both duos captured in their video masterclasses discussing the fact.


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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Spectrum:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
Could be some kind of ROMpler. Maybe the m1, e-mu orbit (rackmount synth), or even nexus.

There definitely was a moment where Breeze & Styles and Sy and Unknown used vengeance packs extensively, including nexus. Both duos captured in their video masterclasses discussing the fact.



I know it's not the M1, which I use for my pianos. I don't think it's Nexus, or the e-mu orbit synth (which is hardware, and I'm not interested in hardware synths/ROMplers).



I agree with djjudah on the layering part. Those sounds may just be that.

If you mix and match, the vengeance collections can get you close, if not spot on.

btw, hardware romplers tend to be more "realistic". Which is something I sense from the linked sample tracks. From the hardware I've owned, most of the presets are rather unique to the specific hardware, like the orbit.


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Edited by - DJ_FunDaBounce on 2020/10/14 01:50:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Spectrum:

I don't think they layer samples. They are definitely using one sample for the claps. I know other producers used that same clap sound before (like Sunrize's Grey Remains, the Orbit1 remix of Milo featuring Phil Ryan's Leave You Again, or Joey Riot's 2007 remix of Your Smile). I do actually have the Sy and Unknown and Breeze and Styles sample packs from Loopmasters, and they are just one sample, not layered. That's why I want to know what sample packs they actually came from, so I can have all the rest of these samples (along with the kicks, snares, hats, etc.).



How do you know that the samples aren't layered? They probably bounced the layered snares to 1 sample. That's what I (and I'm sure almost every other producer) would do. It just makes it so much easier to work with.


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