trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,656 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/04 : 20:02:33
quote:Originally posted by MusicILove:
I would also support Trump.
I find it so funny how much the looney left in the U.K. kick off at him. They cry and scream and yet most people don?t care. It?s astonishing how much air time the Trump haters get. I?m completely out of the news cycle because I couldn?t stand the level of Trump and Boris derangement syndrome.
Everything is their fault.
I have no idea what?s going on in the world and it?s wonderful.
You don't like Universal Healthcare?
It doesn't work?
Not sure non Americans realize just how ****ed our healthcare is.
Citizens of other Nations wouldn't prefer an American President that actively seeks to stay out of the ME, end imperialism, and not engage in unnecessary wars?
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,170 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/03/04 : 20:40:29
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:Originally posted by MusicILove:
I would also support Trump.
I find it so funny how much the looney left in the U.K. kick off at him. They cry and scream and yet most people don?t care. It?s astonishing how much air time the Trump haters get. I?m completely out of the news cycle because I couldn?t stand the level of Trump and Boris derangement syndrome.
Everything is their fault.
I have no idea what?s going on in the world and it?s wonderful.
You don't like Universal Healthcare?
It doesn't work?
Not sure non Americans realize just how ****ed our healthcare is.
Citizens of other Nations wouldn't prefer an American President that actively seeks to stay out of the ME, end imperialism, and not engage in unnecessary wars?
Funny how he seems to like his healthcare. He'll see the kind of hell he'll get now that he seems to prefer Boris over Yeltsin
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MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/04 : 23:14:42
I?m talking as a UK citizen for us trump is best. The democrats threatened us during the referendum being told what to say. Trump will give us a trade deal whereas the democrats probably couldn?t be trusted.
It?s not just your health care that?s broken it?s the whole US political system that?s broken. Politicians who spend most of their days calling people asking for money in exchange for promises to do what they want.
The only 2 possible candidates being massively disliked and unsuitable.
US politicians who can?t see what?s right for their people through the massive amounts of cash lobbyists pass their way
Watch this playlist and you will see the pure lies and deception big companies in the US use to get what they want
Sorry to say Donald Trump doesn?t run America. Big companies do.
Universal healthcare is great but you will never get it unless there is a big political shake up. You need your own UKIP. To force the government to do what the people want and to hold them too account.
That will never happen as long as money drives political careers. Most people who have money are invested in healthcare in one way or another. It?s hugely profitable. They are not going to spend their money in introducing universal health care. They will lose money. The government could essentially set their own prices and force buy companies and hospitals for whatever price they choose.
Like Labour want to do here.
Unless the people say we have had enough and create a new party with the power to get votes through man power and dedication. People will vote for the same 2 parties. They will both fight every 4 or 8 years. One will come in and wipe all or the previous work away. That?s how it works.
I?m not saying I agree with it I don?t. But it?s the US citizens who have the power to change things they just need to band together and create an unstoppable party of the people. That doesn?t need money. It just needs people who are willing to give up their time for free to make the changes they want in the world.
Unfortunately the US is too big for that to happen. They also differ too much in political views to join up.
This is exactly why we voted against the United States of Europe. For all of the EU lovers out there look at the US and see how bad it will be when 1 or 2 Country?s want something but the other 26 don?t. It?s a nightmare.
As for the healthcare situation interestingly most of the research in to my condition happens in the US. Why I have no idea. There is no real monetary gain in keeping people like me alive. The drugs I take aren?t specific in fact they are quite common. There is no miracle drug that will stop what?s happening to me. Essentially I have a progressive state of heart failure. This can cause other organs to fail or have issues such as the liver. So weather some of that giant profit is being pumped back in to help pro long the lives of people like me I can?t say.
Everyone seems to hate Trump if it?s that bad instead of complaining about it do something. If enough people want the same thing they can beat the system.
People in mass are more powerful than money. The UK proved that with Brexit.
Alert moderatorEdited by - MusicILove on 2020/03/04 23:59:56
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,170 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 04:45:18
quote:Universal healthcare is great but you will never get it unless there is a big political shake up. You need your own UKIP. To force the government to do what the people want and to hold them too account.
Someone appears to have forgotten about Sarah Palin :D
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MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 07:39:13
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Universal healthcare is great but you will never get it unless there is a big political shake up. You need your own UKIP. To force the government to do what the people want and to hold them too account.
Someone appears to have forgotten about Sarah Palin :D
MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 07:53:57
The US needs it?s own Brexit style movement to make any meaningful changes. That can only be powered by the people not the politicians.
We beat our politicians and big business. It can be done.
For us in the UK out of the 2 choices Donald is best. Doesn?t mean I 100% like that fact. It?s just how it is.
Alert moderatorEdited by - MusicILove on 2020/03/05 07:56:24
MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 08:46:13
I should mention that as far as politics goes I have been out of the loop for about 2 months. I don?t watch or look at the news. It?s too depressing and only serves to make people feel worse. You only get told what they want you to hear. I have better things to do with the very little awake time I have at the moment.
I?m happier not knowing about it. We got brexit that?s the only big political issue I really cared about.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 19:43:22
quote:Originally posted by MusicILove:
I should mention that as far as politics goes I have been out of the loop for about 2 months. I don?t watch or look at the news. It?s too depressing and only serves to make people feel worse. You only get told what they want you to hear. I have better things to do with the very little awake time I have at the moment.
I?m happier not knowing about it. We got brexit that?s the only big political issue I really cared about.
Ignore the BBC. They still cannot under stand why people voted for Brexit and after trying to help stop Brexit they still did not understand why people voted for Boris
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2020/03/05 : 20:43:35
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Worse. Their radical left is slightly more unhinged than the UK's rabble.
I find it hard to think that there could be anything worse than a Corbynista. I have had nothing but abuse off that lot since 2017 and all I did was point out that Corbyn is a communist, anti semite who also happens to be friends with terrorists.
Apprently that makes me a racist, homophobic, misogamist, incel, rapist virgin what ever that means
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