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LeVzi
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 Posted - 2021/05/21 : 05:29:34
Yep now the Fury AJ fight is off.
**** boxing tbh
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2021/05/21 : 15:09:25
Josh Taylor v Jose Ramirez this weekend. Huge fight for Josh. His scrap with Regis Prograis in 2019 was a classic. Hoping for the same outcome tomorrow.
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Posted - 2021/05/21 : 16:47:07
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Josh Taylor v Jose Ramirez this weekend. Huge fight for Josh. His scrap with Regis Prograis in 2019 was a classic. Hoping for the same outcome tomorrow.
Yes. Really good fight!
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Posted - 2021/05/23 : 11:51:34
Excellent win for Josh last night and another brilliant fight. He is fast becoming one of my favourite boxers to watch. Score cards were miles off it though, had it much wider than 114-112 especially considering the two knock downs. Main thing is the decision was correct.
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Posted - 2021/05/24 : 14:34:52
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Excellent win for Josh last night and another brilliant fight. He is fast becoming one of my favourite boxers to watch. Score cards were miles off it though, had it much wider than 114-112 especially considering the two knock downs. Main thing is the decision was correct.
Still got the fight to watch. Yes. Great win for Josh. Must be British number 1 now. I still have Fury as the best fighter in Britain, but Josh's recent wins and becoming undisputed has to get him number 1 slot.
I've seen talk of Terence Crawford. That's a tough fight!
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Posted - 2021/05/24 : 19:39:11
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Excellent win for Josh last night and another brilliant fight. He is fast becoming one of my favourite boxers to watch. Score cards were miles off it though, had it much wider than 114-112 especially considering the two knock downs. Main thing is the decision was correct.
Still got the fight to watch. Yes. Great win for Josh. Must be British number 1 now. I still have Fury as the best fighter in Britain, but Josh's recent wins and becoming undisputed has to get him number 1 slot.
I've seen talk of Terence Crawford. That's a tough fight!
I stayed up for it on Saturday night and it was worth it. Very good fight.
He has only had 18 fights and is undisputed champ already with some great wins on his record. For comparison Floyd Mayweather won his first world title on his 18th fight. Josh gets a bit too involved in a scrap when boxing clever would be the more sensible option at times but thats what is so exciting about him.
I think he would like a couple of defences at light welterweight including a fight in Edinburgh but money talks and stepping up a weight to face Crawford might happen soon. That would be a tough ask though. Also potential for rematches with Ramirez and Prograis although Im not sure either will make sense for him.
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Posted - 2021/05/27 : 09:02:46
A big home coming is fully deserved, but @ 140 there's nobody there unless he rematches Prograis.
A move up to Welterweight is inevitable.
I see Manny Pacquiao is fighting Errol Spence Jr. If Manny pulls that off he's a top 5 all time great.
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Posted - 2021/05/29 : 08:09:13
After listening to John Fury and Eddie Hearn this morning in interviews, this whole Fury Wilder situation stinks to high heaven.
I really think Fury will lose a lot of his support now, because he's not kicked up a fuss over this, as John Fury said, throw the WBC belt in the bin and fight AJ.
I don't trust Bob Arum at all tbh. This is the American market dictating boxing and that's the final straw to me.
Fury vs Wilder and AJ vs Uysk , both men could lose their belts here. Uysk is a superior boxer to anyone AJ has faced, but he's just not as big or powerful.
Wilder will be a different beast 3rd time around, Fury could get complacent.
**** heavyweight boxing tbh, piss poor promotion.
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Posted - 2021/05/29 : 09:47:50
Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
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Posted - 2021/05/29 : 10:55:06
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After listening to John Fury and Eddie Hearn this morning in interviews, this whole Fury Wilder situation stinks to high heaven.
I really think Fury will lose a lot of his support now, because he's not kicked up a fuss over this, as John Fury said, throw the WBC belt in the bin and fight AJ.
I don't trust Bob Arum at all tbh. This is the American market dictating boxing and that's the final straw to me.
Fury vs Wilder and AJ vs Uysk , both men could lose their belts here. Uysk is a superior boxer to anyone AJ has faced, but he's just not as big or powerful.
Wilder will be a different beast 3rd time around, Fury could get complacent.
**** heavyweight boxing tbh, piss poor promotion.
I'm no Eddie Hearn fan, but from what I can see so far, It does appear that way.
As for those two fights. Yep. Wilder could catch Fury at any point and is always dangerous being such a big puncher. Usyk could out-box AJ, but they would likely rob Usyk on the cards.
I'm really disappointed AJ-Fury is not going ahead.
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Posted - 2021/05/29 : 10:56:30
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Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
Yep. I agree with all of that.
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Posted - 2021/05/30 : 08:17:36
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Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
Agreed, I think America's stronghold on the heavyweight division is pathetic, they are dictating everything for their terms. Fury AJ was the fight the world wanted, but because it didn't involve them, they pulled the plug.
As John Fury said, why isn't Tyson kicking off big time. He seems brainwashed by Arum and his team now.
I fear he will get sparked by a different Wilder. If Wilder ups his boxing, with his power, he's actually going to be dangerous. Question is, is he capable of becoming a better boxer since the last fight and keep Fury at bay.
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Posted - 2021/06/01 : 10:10:49
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Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
Agreed, I think America's stronghold on the heavyweight division is pathetic, they are dictating everything for their terms. Fury AJ was the fight the world wanted, but because it didn't involve them, they pulled the plug.
As John Fury said, why isn't Tyson kicking off big time. He seems brainwashed by Arum and his team now.
I fear he will get sparked by a different Wilder. If Wilder ups his boxing, with his power, he's actually going to be dangerous. Question is, is he capable of becoming a better boxer since the last fight and keep Fury at bay.
Wilder may iron out a few things but I can't see him improving basic fundamentals that much this late in his career. Fury can beat Wilder any way he chooses, he just needs to avoid making mistakes.
Pushing Wilder back and being the aggressor is the key to victory again. Wilder can't fight going backwards. We also don't know what psychological damage he suffered from the first fight. He may well have left a piece of himself in the ring that night. Some fighters are never the same after a beating like that. Meldrick Taylor in 1990 against Julio Cesar Chavez is a prime example.
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Posted - 2021/06/02 : 05:36:15
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
Agreed, I think America's stronghold on the heavyweight division is pathetic, they are dictating everything for their terms. Fury AJ was the fight the world wanted, but because it didn't involve them, they pulled the plug.
As John Fury said, why isn't Tyson kicking off big time. He seems brainwashed by Arum and his team now.
I fear he will get sparked by a different Wilder. If Wilder ups his boxing, with his power, he's actually going to be dangerous. Question is, is he capable of becoming a better boxer since the last fight and keep Fury at bay.
Wilder may iron out a few things but I can't see him improving basic fundamentals that much this late in his career. Fury can beat Wilder any way he chooses, he just needs to avoid making mistakes.
Pushing Wilder back and being the aggressor is the key to victory again. Wilder can't fight going backwards. We also don't know what psychological damage he suffered from the first fight. He may well have left a piece of himself in the ring that night. Some fighters are never the same after a beating like that. Meldrick Taylor in 1990 against Julio Cesar Chavez is a prime example.
I think we'll know more about Fury than Wilder in the fight. If Fury is complacent he's going to sit back and get caught again with that right hand.
I agree that Wilder cant change much this short term.
The Uysk AJ fight needs to happen, as I see Uysk winning it tbh.
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Posted - 2021/06/02 : 08:11:20
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Nobody wants to see fury v wilder again. The second fight was just such a one-sided beat down that you cant justify a 3rd fight. However im also a little concerned that Fury wont have the motivation to do the same again and could get caught by Wilder or go the distance where he could easily get stuffed by corrupt judges.
Usyk also a dangerous fight for AJ , by no means a guaranteed win for him. Now a lot of doubt if we will ever see Fury v Joshua.
Agreed, I think America's stronghold on the heavyweight division is pathetic, they are dictating everything for their terms. Fury AJ was the fight the world wanted, but because it didn't involve them, they pulled the plug.
As John Fury said, why isn't Tyson kicking off big time. He seems brainwashed by Arum and his team now.
I fear he will get sparked by a different Wilder. If Wilder ups his boxing, with his power, he's actually going to be dangerous. Question is, is he capable of becoming a better boxer since the last fight and keep Fury at bay.
Wilder may iron out a few things but I can't see him improving basic fundamentals that much this late in his career. Fury can beat Wilder any way he chooses, he just needs to avoid making mistakes.
Pushing Wilder back and being the aggressor is the key to victory again. Wilder can't fight going backwards. We also don't know what psychological damage he suffered from the first fight. He may well have left a piece of himself in the ring that night. Some fighters are never the same after a beating like that. Meldrick Taylor in 1990 against Julio Cesar Chavez is a prime example.
I think we'll know more about Fury than Wilder in the fight. If Fury is complacent he's going to sit back and get caught again with that right hand.
I agree that Wilder cant change much this short term.
The Uysk AJ fight needs to happen, as I see Uysk winning it tbh.
I actually don't mind AJ-Usyk from a Boxing purist point of view. I believe he has the style to beat AJ too.
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